Which makes sense–They were also very interested in just having 9mm pistols and submachineguns, rather than the usual hodgepodge of Buetewaffen that other non-Wehrmacht outfits had to make do with…. That cutout strikes me as being for giving crud caught there a chance to escape rather than jamming things up, as in Ian and Karl’s mud tests. Lately, the liquid nitride known commercially as “melonite” is one way out. On later models the post front sight was hooded to reduce glare under unfavourable light conditions and add protection for the post. However wouldn’t it be easier to design a better parachute harness or copy an allied one ? Fallschirmjägers got already speacial built equipment. As a universal tool, the MP43 turned out to be head and shoulders above. But, thanks to its existence we have so much fun debating it today. In fact, it’s actually the exact demo gun that he had sent me back in 2013, which I did a review video about. It is evident to me that the former distance is greater. The proposed system of operation was modeled on that used in World War I Lewis light machine gun, with a gas-operated turning bolt action geared to a spiral (clock-type) recoil spring. In short, sticking a bipod on a select-fire rifle no more makes it an LMG that adding an optic makes it a sniper rifle. OK… So, what the hell is up with SMG modifying the cam track on the semi-autos? but its pistol grip being cut in half so that it can fit into combat pilot seat kits – it was only a prototype idea with 10 made. turned out being misled development and cul de sac (especially ofc m14). In it, he describes the process better than I can. I’m no parachute expert, but the main reason the FJ used their weird parachute design was to allow for very, very low drops. 컴퍼니 오브 히어로즈 2 서부전선군의 팔쉬름예거가 전장에 처음 공수될시에 2정을 들고 … Cette arme est parfois comparée au fusil mitrailleur Browning BAR M1918 américain qui possède un chargeur de même taille. © 2020 Forgotten Weapons.Site developed by Cardinal Acres Web Development. No problem! The root of the issue though lies in the “installed base” problem–They started out using adapted balloon parachutes, and like the QWERTY keyboard, it just flowed from there. As expected, FG-42 - still arguably the best "tactical" rifle ever designed. The FG 42 was intended to fill a niche in Nazi Germany's arsenal and was produced only in small numbers. Supposedly, the grip was designed to allow the para to fire down at ground targets while descending. The Fallschirmjaeger belonged to the Luftwaffe, not the Wehrmacht, and Goering considered them his “private army”. Most viewed firearms videos of youtube http://shop.bbtv.com/collections/forgotten-weapons All your Forgotten Weapons merchandise! And an LMG – or light-role MG – is not just a type of weapon, it’s a tactical concept. None of the above–Ideally, if I got to pick out what I could carry, it would be something like an SS-77, a Negev, or a PKM in whatever caliber was on issue. [16], This system used pressurized exhaust gases from the bore and channeled them through a port drilled in the barrel into a gas cylinder located under the barrel. Garand receivers and Glock barrels. Since the rifle was attached to the man while jumping, the weapons containers, most of which after 1942 were transportable, became available for carrying ammunition. SMG began making the later pattern of semiauto-only FG-42 more than 8 years ago (not that this means they have spent more than twice as long perfecting their design than Rheinmetall and Krieghoff did on the originals). [8][12] Several contracts were awarded but only a few prototypes are known to have been submitted. You didn’t have the peening problems with the cam track and op rod tower that you have in the M60, precisely because they made damn sure that the op rod tower was unable to impact the interior of the cam track. From posters to awesome t-shirt designs to refined polos, drink ware, jackets, and more! I took look into my depository of various images I keep for number of years. It was somewhat well received by paratroopers when tested, but it did have its drawbacks. The last known derivatives of the FG 42 were the Swiss Sturmgewehr 52 and M60 machine gun.[10]. [11] These combat experiences demonstrated the need for a rifle that could be carried by the paratrooper during a drop. Paratroops armed mainly with MP38/40s and even earlier SMGs like MP28 came under fire from British defenders armed with rifles, and found themselves outranged. ——————————. This is one of the rarest and most prized weapons when it comes to firearms collectors. Despite the introduction of the 7.92×33mm Kurz intermediate cartridge promoted by the Heer (developed for the promising MP 43 assault rifle), the Luftwaffe favored the long-range potential of the 7.92×57mm Mauser full-power rifle cartridge and this chambering was one of the main design prerequisites. Interesting competition between a FG42 and a M1 Garand. The bolt body is left unfinished on the rifle and some have complained of light rust freckling if left unprotected (oiled) and so the 9310 will help with that – as well as having approximately 10x the impact resistance. They wanted a selective-fire rifle that used the 7.9 x 57 round to avoid that happening in the future. raid to free Benito Mussolini in September 1943, "WWII German weapons during the Vietnam War", WW2 GUNS - Deactivated, Replica and Model WW2 guns, Weapons and Equipment of the Fallschirmjäger, Sport-Systeme Dittrich—civilian BD 42 replica, U.S WWII intelligence report on the FG 42. The FG 42 had a 20-round, or sometimes 10 round, magazine that was mounted on the left side of the rifle. Main issue with the damn things and doctrine to use them, however, was that there weren’t any more actual airborne operations after Crete where they might have been used. With a slightly longer barrel and belt-feeding the weapon would have been an excellent light machine gun. This is already drawing on real modernization. A company based out of Texas called SMG Guns has been reproducing the German Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 paratrooper rifle and has even delved into experiments with modernizing it. But it would be bad at the first and third. Ian at Forgotten Weapons just posted a short video about his new FG42 Type 1 repro today from SMG (via Patreon Apocrypha -- totally worth the $3/Month donation IMO). Precisely NONE of the original FG-42 or Lewis guns that I’ve been able to examine in detail exhibit that kind of wear, and that’s due to the fact that the parts do not impact the way the M60 does. The bayonet, bipod, stock, grip and markings are authentically reproduced to a magnificent degree, and the rifle is is nice to shoot as it is to look at. Dies anyone know how the Germans intended to fight with an all-FG section? It appears to me that the physical contact of mentioned tower/ stud which controls location of firing pin, by way it stops on its way forward in mentioned cam, IS the only way to do it. My past contact with M60 was short and cursory. But it works. An early version of the FG42 at the range. It sounds like SMG are committed to producing a good gun, rather than a quick buck. Peening seems like a different problem: a materials or heat treatment problem. Just a cool funny gun. Then I looked at distance from front surface of stud relative to front end of cam and compared the two. At the time of the Battle of Crete (Operation Mercury), German Fallschirmjäger (parachute infantry) were equipped with the same assortment of small arms as the Heer, carrying only 9×19mm Parabellum chambered pistols and hand grenades on them during parachute jumps, with 9×19mm Parabellum submachine guns, 7.92×57mm Mauser chambered rifles and crew-served weapons stored separately in containers that were dropped from the wing of the exit craft. actually belonged to/was under, and ofc Hitler was its supreme commander. I’m assuming, but have never seen historical evidence, that the concept was to have two equal fire teams, and that their firepower would be sufficient against opponents using more conventional tactics with the classic rifle/LMG mix. It was graduated for 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridges from 100 to 1,200 m (109 to 1,312 yd) in 100 m (109 yd) increments. Technically, this rifle is a masterpiece of design thought. It was just held at the same angle as the grip on the Kar98K (familiarity of ergonomics?). In any paratroop operation the most harassing problem was the method of carrying ammunition. Enter your email address to receive notifications of new posts by email. Which was clearly demonstrated in comparative tests in 1943. Thats what I “heard” too, but in my opinion ergonomics of less stickout are/were priority before “familiarity”. Fifty rifles were fabricated by Rheinmetall-Borsig for evaluation purposes by the end of 1942. The German Falschirmjager I got to talk with loved the gun; when he wasn’t carrying it, he was hauling around an MG34 or 42. These changes, particularly the pistol grip change and the bipod relocation, are clearly visible on late-model FG 42s. The weapons experienced serious malfunctions: one rifle suffered a catastrophic failure after firing only 2,100 rounds, a soldier was injured when attempting to fire a rifle grenade and the pressed metal buttstock would deform after launching a small number of rifle grenades. This made full-automatic fire only marginally useful. Heer (army), Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine (Navy) – so now you see what Luftw. The weapon system underwent continuous development. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The charge lever also served as the safety,[16] disabling the sear mechanism when engaged. Designed to be a universal paratrooper’s rifle capable of acting as sniper’s rifle, light machine gun, hand-to-hand weapon, and grenade launcher, only 2,000 of this early pattern were ever made. I would recommend to them to return to the original shape of the barrel chamber. At Crete, long-range rifle and machine gun fire from dug-in Commonwealth defenders inflicted heavy casualties on the outgunned German paratroopers in the early stages of battle as they attempted to retrieve their support weapons from containers scattered all over the battlefield. This week, that involved a copy of Gerald Kelver’s Schuetzen Rifles: History and Loadings. The Fallschirmjägergewehr 42', or FG 42, was a German automatic rifle. The prototype was then submitted to a series of endurance tests led by the HWA and further modified to increase functional reliability and durability, resulting in the final LC-6/III prototype variant that was ultimately accepted into production as the FG 42. He also ran it in some matches on his In Range channel Posted: 4/12/2020 11:23:44 AM EST This layout, combined with the side magazine, placed both the center of gravity and the position of the shoulder stock nearly in line with the longitudinal axis of the bore, a feature increasing controllability during burst or automatic fire. It is a fabulous rifle . So with airborne operations, size and ergonomics does matter. Originals are extremely rare and command the highest price of virtually any military small arms, and so it is not surprising that a reproduction has been made for those who would like to actually shoot them. Semi Auto FG42 Project! Alas, way above my budget. LOL… Not me, if I get a choice. He did say that as soon as possible, the idea was to get the belt-fed MGs into operation. The classifications of the development and production Ausführungen (types) are as follows: In 1941, the German Air Force (Luftwaffe) requested a selective-fire hand-held weapon for the paratroopers; Senior Staff Air Secretary Ossenbach at the GL/C Erprobungsstelle-6 (GL/C E-6—the Luftwaffe Weapons Development Branch at Tarnewitz near Wismar) was approached informally to develop this special new weapon. I wish I could remember more details, but I don’t. Forgotten Weapons - The Korsac EM1 - a British/Polish Bullpup FG-42 Email This BlogThis! I suppose they’re going to learn the hard way. The above should have been a reply to Cherndog’s post above… Sorry! FG42 Accessories FG42 grip color options FG42 Project Info FG42 things for sale – Not from SMG… FG42 Wood Laminate and solid walnut Reproduction type II bayonet Sample finished FG42 rifles in These tests exposed several shortcomings, addressed by Stange in April 1942 with the LC-6/II prototype. I do not intend to be at disagreement with your view, based on your long term experience with M60 weapon system. It could. The early pattern (Type E, specifically) FG-42 is one of the most eye-catching military rifles ever made. I wasn’t familiar with SAE 9310, so I looked it up. An early version of the FG42 at the range. This is a practical option for firearms, used for e.g. 더군다나 전기형은 탄피가 총구와 Several other improvements were made before being authorized for large-scale production. This device does not at all correspond to its purpose, the idea of an assault rifle for a machine-gun cartridge was initially stillborn. Ideally a part like that is surface hardened yet with a tough core: a file skates off its surface, yet it won’t shatter. Its not a bad idea, but having/”discovering” mp44, it quickly becomes inferior, and you see what is correct guns development orientation (on which NATO stumbled after ww2). Though a side-mounted magazine was common in submachine guns of the time, the larger magazine with heavier ammunition of a full-powered rifle tended to unbalance the weapon. . As such, doctrine was not developed with this in mind. These rifles appeared in […], In my ongoing effort to broaden my firearms horizons, I have been reading up on subjects I have little knowledge of. I have to agree and commend you for saying the “truth” – is was and remains a “freak” – big time. Its designer Louis Stange knew that, he also built a prototype with belt feed. It looks like there are even some vanadium bearing steels in that general group if you really want to have high surface hardness. I vaguely remember, too, that they were doing that because the early JU-52 had them exiting not from side doors, but from a well in the aircraft’s fuselage, like a bomber. Whilst not a true bullpup rifle design the seemingly awkward placement of the magazine housing (horizontally to the side rather than directly beneath the receiver) allowed the bolt mechanism to extend into the buttstock assembly, effectively reducing the overall length of the weapon as the magazine well did not interfere with the location of the pistol grip. Allied paratroopers exited the aircraft standing; German Falschirmjager leapt out as though they were diving head-first. In the later version the bayonet was shortened from around 10 inches (250 mm) to around 6 inches (150 mm). SMG’s bolts and op rod towers show exactly the wear and damage that I’d expect on an M60, and for the same reason–Impact that shouldn’t be happening, and does not occur in the original, from what I’ve seen. Carrying an MG as a ground-pounder? I had contacted them and not heard back. Sainte-Mère-Église was one such example. Owing to its main intended use by paratroopers, the rear sight (which necessarily was rather high due to the straight stock design) was a flip-up construction. Maybe a PKP Pecheneg would suffice for durability? An AR-10 is not really even a real MG, in that there’s no capability for barrel change or tripod mount, while the MAG has proven time and time again to be Too Damn Heavy for foot-mobile infantry. Smith gave it to him in exchange for running an Its expedited development, remedial changes to the original design and ever-changing Luftwaffe requirements resulted in a myriad of variants. Which has the purpose (contrary to usual) to deteriorate performance. Would it be due to lectures by his friend Karl? The 8mm Mauser was about an optimum round for both rifles and machineguns in German inventory. For pilots at the beginning of WW1 to prevent brass casings to get into the cockpit and interfering with the foot pedals. Enjoy what you read on Forgotten Weapons? [18] The empty weight of the 100 mm (3.9 in) long 10-round magazine is 185 g (6.5 oz) and of the 150 mm (5.9 in) long 20-round magazine 290 g (10 oz).[7]. It simply is a true masterpiece by Shoei, additionally, the real gun is incredibly impressive (I'm sure you all know the video from Ian / Forgotten Weapons ) Of course I don't need two of those, so if anyone's interested in an FG42 (the one without scope on the fotos), just drop me a … As it was, they were an answer to a question that was no longer being asked, and the Falschirmjager mostly just used them as firepower supplements where they could, about like how the First Special Service Force made use of their Johnson Light Machine Guns. From that finding I can only guess that the stud IS intended to fall onto front lobe of the cam before anything else. When the Luftwaffe was finally given permission to produce 3,000 rifles for combat trials, the material specifications were changed to accommodate the use of manganese steel as a substitute. The reproduction scope that is paired with the rifle is based on a Russian PU – perfectly appropriate as the original ZFG42 optic made by Voigtländer was also heavily based on the PU. He’s obviously on good enough terms with the SMG people to ask them about it, though. It was designed and built for - as the name of the weapon say - the Fallschirmjägers, the German paratroopers. However, let me ask you a question: how do you envision, given the mechanism of the SMG as shown in the pictures, to determine firing pin protrusion control? [8], Six manufacturers were solicited for prototype designs: Gustloff-Werke, Mauser, Johannes Großfuß Metall- und Lackierwarenfabrik, C.G. The FG 42 (German: Fallschirmjägergewehr 42, "paratrooper rifle 42") is a selective-fire 7.92×57mm Mauser automatic rifle[1][2] produced in Nazi Germany during World War II. There were never enough FG 42s to arm most Fallschirmjäger as originally intended, however most were employed in the western front following the events of D-Day, with the particular use of FG-42 during the Battle of Carentan and the Falaise Pocket (nearly a quarter of all FG-42 produced were in the hands of the 2nd Parachute Division).
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